RFC - Tap io_uring PMD
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mb at smartsharesystems.com
Sun Dec 29 11:45:17 CET 2024
> From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:stephen at networkplumber.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2024 06.21
>
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 08:46:55 +0100
> Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin at redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Why not just use Virtio-user PMD with Vhost-kernel backend [0]?
> > Are there any missing features that io_uring can address?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Maxime
> >
> > [0]:
> http://doc.dpdk.org/guides/howto/virtio_user_as_exception_path.html
> >
>
> Yes, I looked at that but:
> - virtio user ends up with a busy kernel thread which is not
> acceptable
> in SOC environment where all resources are locked down. In the SOC
> I was working
> on DPDK was limited to 4 polling isolated CPU's and 1 sleeping main
> thread.
> The rest of the CPU resources were hard constrained by cgroups. The
> virtio user
> thread was a problem.
I suppose the Kernel needs to schedule CPU resources to process the packets at some point anyway.
So how does the ioring driver improve the situation with the virtio-user thread? I.e. what's the difference in the way the Kernel handles these two types of drivers?
And a slightly related question: Are there any differences in throughput, latency or other performance metrics? (At very high bandwidth, scheduling latency matters; the "latency" parameter of the BDP becomes dominant.)
Overall, I'm trying to figure out when to use the virtio-user PMD, and when to use the ioring PMD.
Eventually, this should be described in the driver documentation or a user guide.
>
> - virtio user device is not persistent. If DPDK is being used a
> dataplane, need to
> be able to quickly restart and not disturb applications and routing
> in the kernel
> while the tap device is unavailable. I.e having device present but
> in no carrier
> state is better than having to teach applications about hot plug or
> play around
> with multiple addresses on loopback device (which is what Cisco
> routers do).
virtio-user device persistence can probably be achieved in some other way.
(E.g. a persistent user space daemon could be used as a middle man for allocation. Just an idea; probably better solutions are available, if given more brain cycles.)
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