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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Dimitry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We know If the application does unmap, DPDK native heaps are not getting cleaned up  in “</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">native: use regular DPDK memory”  memory type.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Can we get an API from DPDK community please to clean up the heaps given the VA and length to be freed ? Like below<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://doc.dpdk.org/api/rte__memory_8h.html#afb3c1f8be29fa15953cebdad3a9cd8eb">https://doc.dpdk.org/api/rte__memory_8h.html#afb3c1f8be29fa15953cebdad3a9cd8eb</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#253555">void * <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt"><em><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#602020;font-style:normal">va_addr</span></b></em><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#602020">,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt"><em><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#602020;font-style:normal">len</span></b></em><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#602020"> <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><o:p> </o:p></b></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:black">Unregister external memory chunk with DPDK.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:black">Using this API is mutually exclusive with </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">rte_malloc</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:black"> family
 of API's.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:black">This API will not perform any DMA unmapping. It is expected that user will do that themselves.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:black">Before calling this function, all other processes must call </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black">rte_extmem_detach</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:black"> to
 detach from the memory area.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:black">Parameters<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#602020">va_addr<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto">Start of virtual area to unregister<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#602020">len<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:16.5pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto">Length of virtual area to unregister<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:black">Returns<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">        
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:black">0 on success<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:black">-1 in case of error, with rte_errno set to one of the following: EINVAL - one of the parameters was invalid ENOENT - memory chunk was not
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">If we get such API in native way , it will be good for us instead of changing the design and going all the way writing code for new memory type
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Please suggest us can we get an API to clean up DPDK NATIVE POOLS if VA_ADDR and LEN is given ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Umakiran<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Umakiran Godavarthi (ugodavar) <ugodavar@cisco.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, 26 September 2022 at 6:25 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Dmitry Kozlyuk <dmitry.kozliuk@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>anatoly.burakov@intel.com <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>, dev@dpdk.org <dev@dpdk.org>, stephen@networkplumber.org <stephen@networkplumber.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: DPDK 19.11.5 Legacy Memory Design Query<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks <a id="OWAAMF9BEDABBDB271A48B5873C869C70D9D0" href="mailto:dmitry.kozliuk@gmail.com">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;text-decoration:none">@Dmitry Kozlyuk</span></a> for your suggestions</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I will try the following for DPDK pool creation
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">My logic of calculating MBUF’s remains same</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Saw this code in DPDK testpmd where External heap memory is used</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">case MP_ALLOC_XMEM_HUGE:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                {</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                        int heap_socket;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                        bool huge = mp_alloc_type == MP_ALLOC_XMEM_HUGE;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                        if (setup_extmem(nb_mbuf, mbuf_seg_size, huge) < 0)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                                rte_exit(EXIT_FAILURE, "Could not create external memory\n");</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                        heap_socket =</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                                rte_malloc_heap_get_socket(EXTMEM_HEAP_NAME);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                        if (heap_socket < 0)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                                rte_exit(EXIT_FAILURE, "Could not get external memory socket ID\n");</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                        TESTPMD_LOG(INFO, "preferred mempool ops selected: %s\n",</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                                        rte_mbuf_best_mempool_ops());</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                        rte_mp = rte_pktmbuf_pool_create(pool_name, nb_mbuf,</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                                        mb_mempool_cache, 0, mbuf_seg_size,</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                                        heap_socket);</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                        break;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">                }</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So I will do the same</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">EAL Init</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Calculate MBUF we need for our application</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Then create pool using MP_ALLOC_XEM_HUGE</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">1,2,3 should work right , that should avoid heap corruption issues right ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We have total 3 types pool creation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">/*</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> * Select mempool allocation type:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> * - native: use regular DPDK memory</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> * - anon: use regular DPDK memory to create mempool, but populate using</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> *         anonymous memory (may not be IOVA-contiguous)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> * - xmem: use externally allocated hugepage memory</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> */</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Instead of Freeing unused virtual memory in DPDK native way, we just create a pool with type XMEM_HUGE and add page by page to it like testpmd code</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Please let me know 1,2,3 steps are good right, so we need to boot DPDK with socket mem</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Menlo;color:#404040">--socket-mem 2048 so that DPDK takes only 1 page natively and boots up right ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Menlo;color:#404040">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Menlo;color:#404040">Umakiran</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Dmitry Kozlyuk <dmitry.kozliuk@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, 23 September 2022 at 6:41 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Umakiran Godavarthi (ugodavar) <ugodavar@cisco.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>anatoly.burakov@intel.com <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>, dev@dpdk.org <dev@dpdk.org>, stephen@networkplumber.org <stephen@networkplumber.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: DPDK 19.11.5 Legacy Memory Design Query</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">2022-09-23 12:12 (UTC+0000), Umakiran Godavarthi (ugodavar):
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> [Uma] :  Yes I agree if free_hp = 400, nr_hp = 252, we are expecting DPDK takes only 252 and keep the remaining pages free in its heap.<br>
>                As you have mentioned just boot DPDK with 1 page, and add pages we want later, is this the steps<br>
> <br>
>   1.  NR_HP =1 , FREE_HP = 1<br>
>   2.  EAL INIT (DPDK boots up with 1 2 MB page)<br>
>   3.  What is the API for adding later on pages ? (rte_extmem_*, can you please give the full API details and how to call it with arguments )<br>
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Guide:<br>
<br>
    <a href="https://doc.dpdk.org/guides-19.11/prog_guide/env_abstraction_layer.html#support-for-externally-allocated-memory">
https://doc.dpdk.org/guides-19.11/prog_guide/env_abstraction_layer.html#support-for-externally-allocated-memory</a><br>
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I recommend reading the entire section about DPDK memory management<br>
since you're going to use an uncommon API<br>
and should understand what's going on.<br>
<br>
API (the linked function and those following it):<br>
<br>
    <a href="http://doc.dpdk.org/api-19.11/rte__malloc_8h.html#a2295623c85ba41fe5bf7dce6bf0393d6">
http://doc.dpdk.org/api-19.11/rte__malloc_8h.html#a2295623c85ba41fe5bf7dce6bf0393d6</a><br>
<br>
    <a href="http://doc.dpdk.org/api-19.11/rte__memory_8h.html#a653510fb0c58bf63f54708677e3a2eba">
http://doc.dpdk.org/api-19.11/rte__memory_8h.html#a653510fb0c58bf63f54708677e3a2eba</a><br>
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> We can do 1,2,3 there is a problem once we reduce pages to 1 , kernel will free the huge pages totally<br>
> <br>
> So is there a way not to touch NR_HP, FREE_HP, and just pass arguments to boot DPDK with just 1 page ? Please let us know and later add pages we need to DPDK !!<br>
<br>
See --socket-mem EAL option:<br>
<br>
    <a href="http://doc.dpdk.org/guides-19.11/linux_gsg/linux_eal_parameters.html#id3">
http://doc.dpdk.org/guides-19.11/linux_gsg/linux_eal_parameters.html#id3</a><br>
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> Why do you need legacy mode in the first place?<br>
> Looks like you're painfully trying to achieve the same result<br>
> that dynamic mode would give you automatically.<br>
> <br>
> [Uma] : Yes , we can’t avoid legacy memory design as secondary process mapped page by page to primary process , and physical addr space is same for both processes.  We have to stick to legacy memory design only for now !!<br>
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Sorry, I still don't understand.<br>
Virtual and physical addresses of DPDK memory are the same across processes<br>
in both legacy and dynamic memory mode.<o:p></o:p></p>
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