<div dir="ltr">Can we setup a call next week with the counsel for the major contributors? If it's 7-9 companies this shouldn't be difficult to resolve. I hate to be difficult but this topic will not be resolved on a public mailing list unless everyone is willing to punt on the issue until there is a governing board to make the decision.<div><br></div><div>I am willing to schedule and host the call. I just need the names and emails of your counsel. Please email me directly and not on the list.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Mike</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"> <p><font size="2">---<br>Mike Dolan<br>VP of Strategic Programs<br>The Linux Foundation<br>Office: +1.330.460.3250 Cell: +1.440.552.5322 Skype: michaelkdolan<br><a href="mailto:mdolan@linuxfoundation.org" target="_blank">mdolan@linuxfoundation.org</a><br>---</font></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div> <br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Francois Ozog <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:francois.ozog@linaro.org" target="_blank">francois.ozog@linaro.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hello,<div><br></div><div>please find the Linaro CLA that passed many large companies lawyers for IP: <a href="http://opendataplane.org/contributor/individual/" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">http://opendataplane.org/c<wbr>ontributor/individual/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Compnies that already signed it (not all are listed): ARM, Broadcom, Canonical, Cavium, Cisco, Comcast, Ericsson, ENEA, Facebook, Hisilicon, HP Enterprise, Huawei, MontaVista, Nokia, NXP, Qualcomm, RedHat, Samsung, Socionext, Spreadtrum, ST microelectronics, Texas Instruments, Wind River, ZTE</div><div><br></div><div>I wonder how to read "<span style="font-size:12.8px">Need for a CLA is a problem for some contributors due to the need to get legal approval.</span><span style="font-size:12.8px">"</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Is it: "let's mask the problem to lawyers because they may NOT allow us to continue our technical fun?" or is it "this is just a burden that may take long and I don't want to lose time".</span></div><div><br></div><div>Cordially,</div><div><br></div><div>FF</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 December 2016 at 19:50, Dave Neary <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dneary@redhat.com" target="_blank">dneary@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><br> <br> On 12/01/2016 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:<br> >> Note that I’m assuming that the combination of Apache 2 and a CLA isn't an option because this seems redundant as both include patent protection. Maybe there are other reasons that would make this a valid combination though.<br> ><br> > The Apache Software Foundation requires CLAs with copyright assignment<br> > to the foundation for official Apache projects - this is to allow for<br> > future license changes (an Apache v3 license), and also reflects some of<br> > the difficulties of a 30 year old project (several of the original<br> > copyright holders are no longer with the project, or have died, and the<br> > succession rights for copyright materials can sometimes result in<br> > unfortunate conflicts between the estates and open source projects).<br> <br> </span>A small but important correction: The ASF CLA is a grant of a broad<br> copyright license which allows, among other things, the ASF to<br> redistribute the software under a different license. It is not a<br> copyright assignment.<br> <br> Thanks,<br> <div class="m_8894648396787410839HOEnZb"><div class="m_8894648396787410839h5">Dave.<br> <br> --<br> Dave Neary - NFV/SDN Community Strategy<br> Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - <a href="http://community.redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://community.redhat.com</a><br> Ph: <a href="tel:%2B1-978-399-2182" value="+19783992182" target="_blank">+1-978-399-2182</a> / Cell: <a href="tel:%2B1-978-799-3338" value="+19787993338" target="_blank">+1-978-799-3338</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div></div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-- <br><div class="m_8894648396787410839gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><table style="font-size:small" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding-right:10px" valign="top"><a href="http://www.linaro.org/" title="Linaro" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.mydesignpad.com/email-sig/linaro/linaro-logo-web.png" alt="Linaro" border="0" height="46px" width="72px"></a></td><td valign="top"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,'Sans Serif';white-space:nowrap;font-size:9pt;padding-top:0px;color:rgb(87,87,87)" valign="top"><span style="font-weight:bold">François-Frédéric Ozog</span> <span style="color:rgb(161,161,161)">|</span> <i>Director Linaro Networking Group</i></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,'Sans Serif';white-space:nowrap;font-size:9pt;padding-top:2px;color:rgb(87,87,87)" valign="top">T: <a href="tel:%2B33.67221.6485" value="+393384075993" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">+33.67221.6485</a><br><a href="mailto:francois.ozog@linaro.org" style="color:rgb(87,87,87);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">francois.ozog@linaro.org</a> <span style="color:rgb(161,161,161)">|</span> <wbr>Skype: ffozog</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><br style="font-size:small"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div> </font></span></div> </blockquote></div><br></div>