回复:RE: About memory coherency

Nick Tian nick.tian at longsailingsemi.com
Tue Aug 9 11:41:35 CEST 2022


Hi Burakov
Thanks for your reply.
BTW, about the memory reserved by  memfd_create-->ftruncate-->mmap, 
what on earth is the coherency between cache and DDR? In another word, is it cacheable?uncacheable?
Is it possible for application to pass this memory to a device with DMA controller(I mean pass the PHY addr coverted by  rte_mem_virt2phy to DMA controller)?
If yes, how can we ensure the coherency between cache and DDR?


static int eal_legacy_hugepage_init(void)
  memfd = memfd_create("nohuge", 0);
...
    fd = memfd;
    flags = MAP_SHARED; //MAP_SHARED means UNCACHEABLE?




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发件人:Burakov, Anatoly <anatoly.burakov at intel.com>
发送时间:08/09/22 17:25:35
收件人:Kinsella, Ray <ray.kinsella at intel.com>, Nick Tian <nick.tian at longsailingsemi.com>, users at dpdk.org <users at dpdk.org>
主题:RE: About memory coherency

There are two different issues at play here.

The purpose of “no-huge” flag is to run DPDK without requiring hugepage memory. Originally, this has been done using an anonymous mmap() call – so, this memory was not using any fd’s at all. This presents a problem with vhost-user, because it relies on fd’s for its shared memory implementation. This is what memfd (a relatively recent addition to the kernel) is addressing – it’s enabling usage of vhost-user with no-huge because memfd actually does create an fd to back our memory.

That said, while description says “malloc”, it istechnically incorrect because there’s no malloc involved in the process. The “malloc” term is simply shorthand for “use regular memory”, and should be understood in that context.

Thanks,
Anatoly

From: Kinsella, Ray <ray.kinsella at intel.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:04 AM
To: Nick Tian <nick.tian at longsailingsemi.com>; users at dpdk.org
Cc: Burakov, Anatoly <anatoly.burakov at intel.com>
Subject: RE: About memory coherency

I may be incorrect, but is it not simply the case, that when using the no-huge parameter that MAP_HUGETLB is omitted from flags?

Ray K

From: Nick Tian <nick.tian at longsailingsemi.com>
Sent: Tuesday 9 August 2022 03:55
To: users at dpdk.org
Subject: About memory coherency


Hi
I am confusing about the "no-huge" option of DPDK 21.11.
The dpdk usage said: --no-huge:Use malloc instead of hugetlbfs.
But when I check the EAL source code, I found some code piece like this:
It's look like "no-huge" option will lead dpdk use memfd_create-->ftruncate-->mmap to reserve memory
and then provide to application with rte_malloc.
Am I right?
If so, what the "malloc" in "use malloc instead of hugelbfs" refer to?

EAL_memory.c
static int eal_legacy_hugepage_init(void){
....
 if (internal_conf->no_hugetlbfs) {
....
#ifdef MEMFD_SUPPORTED
  /* create a memfd and store it in the segment fd table */
  memfd = memfd_create("nohuge", 0);
......
  /* we got an fd - now resize it */
   if (ftruncate(memfd, internal_conf->memory) < 0) {
.....
   fd = memfd;
    flags = MAP_SHARED;   }
....
  prealloc_addr = msl->base_va;
  addr = mmap(prealloc_addr, mem_sz, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE,
flags | MAP_FIXED, fd, 0);
...

 
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